Fight or FEMA Camp: Alma vs. Limhi
A recent new report was discussing the use of US Military being used as peace keepers on American soil in violation of the Pose Comitatus Act. Over the past 10 years, there has been an increasing trend for FEMA to call upon the US Military to assist with domestic disaster relief as opposed to using the State National Guard which are under the command of the Governors as opposed to DOD. (Caesar has crossed the Rubicon).
Accordingly, Many concerned citizens point to several instances where during these disaster relief operations, US Military were used to conduct warrantless door-to-door searches, gun confiscation, and forced relocations. Critics of this kind of domestic use of the US Military claim it is in clear violation of the Pose Comitatus Act of 1878 . Pose Comitatus prohibits US Military from engaging in "law enforcement," "military occupation" or "peace keeping" activities on non-federal property. Last October, NorthCOM using the threat of WMD's as justification, assigned the US Army 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team (otherwise known as the Chemical, Biological, Radiological/Nuclear, and Explosive Consequence Management Response Force or CCMRF) to operate within the US. The issue FEMA and Pose Comitatus got me thinking about the following scenario.
1. We know that Utah (Wasatch Fault) is way overdue for an 8-9 Earthquake (Utah has been feverishly retrofitting for last 25 years). 2. A magnitude 8-9 earthquake along the Wasatch Front would result in considerable devastation. 3. When that Earthquake occurs or any another large-scale domestic disaster, US Military will likely assist local law enforcement in peacekeeping activities as was done in New Orleans, Billings, MT and Greenburg, KS 4. If called upon, the US Military could engage in house-to-house searches and gun confiscation. 5. FEMA could use the military to enforce a mandatory vaccination program 6. Disaster victims could be forcibly removed, relocated, and transported to a system of FEMA residential facilities.
So, some unconventional questions are these: When the Big Utah Quake happens (or the next big domestic disaster), and FEMA activates the Consequence Management Response Force (CMRF) to imposes a policy of gun confiscation, forced vaccination and relocation; What do you think the reaction of the general public will be? Would anyone militantly resist gun confiscation and forced vaccination? The choice between [Fight] or [FEMA Camp] seems like a lose-lose, false dichotomy to me. It is my conviction that by being spiritually and temporally prepared, listening to the prophet, and taking the Holy Spirit as our guide, we will not have to fear either of these false choices.
Having and sharing a year supply nicely avoids the (fight vs FEMA camp) dichotomy. While many people may voluntarily get on the trains headed toward FEMA residential centers because of the promise of food and water. If we follow the prophet and have food storage, we can share with our neighbors, ban together, and keep some semblance of community. Then again, having a 72-hour kit and hitting the road early and getting out of Dodge may be wise depending on the circumstances.
Again, lets imagine that Utah's Wasatch Fault finally has its 8-9.5 Earthquake and the entire Wasatch Front is in shambles. Marshall Law is imposed, Federal Troops are on the street and going door to door rounding up people and enforcing policies of forced vaccination, gun confiscation, and forced relocation to FEMA residential camps. What would be the correct response? I don't like the [Fight vs. FEMA Camp] dichotomy, but it reminds me a lot of the situation of the people of Limhi vs. the people of Alma in the Book of Mormon.
Limhi's was the son of wicked King Noah who burned the prophet Abinadi at the stake. Limhi's people were enslaved by the Lamanites and put under a kind of martial law. In response, the people of Limhi marshaled themselves and went to battle against impossible odds and were badly defeated again and again before they were eventually delivered.
On the other hand, Alma and a small band of believers were warned and escaped the City of Nephi before the Lamanites enslaved its citizens. Eventually Alma's City of Helam was taken captive for a short time. In fact, a law was made that if the guards found them praying, they would be put to death. However, we are told Alma's and his people did not resist and God did quickly delivered them.
I think we all hope we would have some prior warning of danger like Alma at the Waters of Mormon. However, If I were forced to choose between Alma or Limhi, I choose Alma every time.
I think the important thing here is to follow the prophet, get out of debt, acquire a food supply, and keep an open mind when anticipating instruction to "defend the constitution" vs. "comply and seek redress later in the courts?" (D&C 101:76, 134:11) I hope that most citizens understand that the Pose Comitatus Act of 1878 only applies to the point where the Insurrection Act of 1807 takes over. Therefore, when I hear anyone say they would militantly resist a policy of gun confiscation, I can't help but think about the lesson of People of Limhi vs. the People of Alma in the Book of Mormon.
My hope is that regardless of what may happen (earthquakes, dirty bombs, financial collapse) many of us who have listened to the living prophets and have a food storage will be able to stay put and maybe share our food storage with 1-2 Ishmael-like families with skills and resources that will help us survive, instead of relocating to FEMA residential centers or major cities where food and water distribution is promised.
D&C 112:25 And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;
D&C 45:57 For they that are wise and have received the truth, and have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide, and have not been deceived—verily I say unto you, they shall not be hewn down and cast into the fire, but shall abide the day.
9 comments:
Regarding the "Mark of the Beast," and what it might mean in a Latter-day Saint context, here is an article I wrote a few years back on the subject:
https://sites.google.com/site/heavenlybanner/other-articles-writings-or-reprints/666-of-men-marks-beasts-and-the-sealing-power
I don't know about an implanted chip. My uncle got back recently from Afghanistan as a pilot. He says the 'Jason Bourne' chip technology is already obsolete. All they have to do is get you 'tagged chemically.'
David,
This is plain silly.
Do you know who coordinates directly with FEMA? The LDS Church. They've helped with many of the preparedness materials. And, when a disaster happens, they work together.
To accept your premise, one must assume President Monson has been duped.
I support the prophet not silly conspiracy theories.
In my worldview, any Latter-day Saint who believes the Evangelical or Millenialist view of prophecy - which is the stuff you're commenting on - needs their head examined. Joseph Smith was told all those religions were wrong 150+ years ago. I don't think they've made any progress since then, do you? So why would any self-respecting, believing Mormon follow their false doctrine? Joseph Smith gave us the keys to interpret prophecy correctly. Why Mormons look to mainstream Christian dogma about prophecy is a complete mystery to me. Study Joseph Smith, not Hal Lindsay or his ilk. Sheesh!
Can you tell us more about FEMA confiscating guns in New Orleans or martial law in Billings?
FEMA will show up and, finding everything well managed by local LDS leadership, will mount only minimal forces for support.
Jack
Anonymous,
Thank you for your comment. I think there is an unfortunately misunderstanding somewhere. I wasn't implying anyone was "dupped". The point I was making is that the LDS Church is taking the perfect approach with FEMA. The Church's long-standing policies avoid the [Fight vs FEMA Camp] dichotomy.
Gun Confiscation in Metairie, LA after Katrina,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
Forced Evacuation and Gun Confiscation in Greensberg KS
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?131040-Greensburg-KS-Gun-Confiscations
Instituting Martial Law in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gewp3aVWku4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP-XHM9qVqM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?
131040-Greensburg-KS-Gun-Confiscations
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